About the Founders
xx Meghan and Pamela
If you could eat one thing for the rest of your life, what would it be?
P: I could eat pasta any meal of the day, every day of the week. I make the Gigi pasta at least once a week. So delicious and so many options.
M: I second that, pasta! But specifically, spaghetti with brown sugar meat sauce. DM me for recipe haha.
What are your biggest fears?
M: Public speaking, spiders (or insects in general), and death by drowning.
P: I watch a lot of crime shows and have always been an overly paranoid person. I am terrified of being stalked or followed. When I stay in a hotel I will search every inch of it before I relax or I will not sleep. I am also afraid of the dark and I use a nightlight when I am alone.
What is something that most people don’t know about you?
M: I think once people meet me it’s pretty apparent, but I’m an “extroverted introvert”; I love doing social things, but I’m pretty shy and overthink everything I ever say, ever, so big social outings take a lot out of me. I love and cherish my alone time.
P: I never learned how to swim when I was a kid and I have always had a paralyzing fear of open water. It was a bit mortifying but a couple years ago, I took adult swimming lessons and I am so grateful that I did and pushed myself out of my comfort zone. I still try to swim 1-2 times a week to keep building confidence in the water.
What is your favourite memory of us?
P: There are so many, but one of my favourite memories of us was when we were on a “yoga retreat” in Thailand which ended up being more of a boot camp haha. It was my second time out of the country and I decided to backpack for 5 months because I am a lunatic. We were staying in this tiny hut in the jungle and there was a gigantic spider in our bathroom. We devised this plan to try and get it out using hair spray and the shower-head which did not go as planned. The spider started running towards us and I just ran away and left Meg there. We still laugh and cry about this trip because we faced so many challenges as first time female backpackers.
M: LOL-ing because this is definitely it for me too. I think we were on sleepless night #8 in our jungle hut, where the roof did not connect to the walls, and a gigantic gecko creature was threatening our lives when Pam wrapped herself up in all the clothes she had and was fed up enough to say, “Meg we are sleeping on the beach tonight IDGAF”. I talked her off the ledge when I reminded her of the wild murderous beach monkeys, so this was the lesser of two evils. Evidently, we aren’t the nature-iest nature girls.
What is the most effective way that you cope with stress?
M: I actually tend to thrive in high stress situations, I like the pressure and adrenaline rush. Of course this doesn’t apply to every situation, but as a world class procrastinator, the added stress usually kicks my productivity into high gear for finding a solution. However, it’s probably best to leave me alone and turn a blind eye as I eat my feelings during this time.
P: I don’t like giving stressful situations too much mental energy if it is something I can influence. I will let myself freak out for 15 minutes and then pivot to finding a solution. If it is stress over a minor inconvenience, or something that I can control, I take a break to reset and come up with an actionable plan for the problem. If we are talking about severe stress and anxiety over circumstances I can’t change, I treat myself the same way I would if I had the flu. I take a break, unplug, relax, binge watch tv, take a nap, make or order in my favourite food.
What is your morning routine?
P: It is not the same every morning but in a nutshell, I try to wake up at 7:00am on weekdays and spend the first two hours getting myself ready to start the day. It sounds a bit crazy but I love prioritizing what I need first thing in the morning. This routine includes: hydrating, having a coffee, reading, working out or going for a walk, getting dressed for the day while listening to a podcast, and eating breakfast. Some mornings I can’t fit in all of these things so it does vary but this is my ideal morning routine. It feels so great to spend the first part of the day doing things that are good for me and that will set me up for a successful day.
M: Unlike Pam, I’m very much not a morning person although I wish I was! I find my most productive and creative self exists in the afternoon or evenings, so my mornings usually look like a whirlwind mess: hitting snooze 3 times 'til the last possible second, a frantic shower, scrambling out the door BUT always making time to stop for an iced coffee.
What is your night routine?
M: Night owl, here! I like to stay pretty regimented throughout the week - finding time to be active and sticking to a 7 hour minimum sleep schedule is important to me. However, late evenings are typically my favourite part of my days. It’s my me-time to unwind, either with a good playlist or Netflix show on, and always spent with the love of my life, my dog Beau. Weekend nights are another story though..
P: I am such a sleepy person so I try to keep my night routine really simple because I have very little energy by 10:00pm. I can really easily just fall asleep on the couch in my day clothes if I don’t act quickly- I am a self-diagnosed narcoleptic. I don’t like waking up to a messy apartment so I will do a quick 10 minute clean up and put things away like shoes, folding blankets, wiping counters, straighten pillows. Around 9:30pm I will start getting ready for bed by flossing, brushing my teeth, taking a body shower, moisturizing, and doing my skincare regime. It sounds like a lot but I try to do all these things in less than 20 minutes. After that I like to hop into bed and relax for the rest of the night by reading something light or putting on a show. I try to be asleep by 11:00pm so that I can have an earlier start.
M: Can confirm, Pam will literally fall asleep anywhere in any position once the clock strikes 11.
P: My sisters have an entire photo album of me sleeping in inappropriate places which I can share if the demand is high enough. Jokes aside, an early riser and a night owl make excellent business partners because someone is usually always available haha.
How do you cope with feeling imposter syndrome?
P: This one is difficult but I try to keep reminding myself that everyone is out here pretending like they know what they are doing. If I can’t snap out of it, I walk it off to a boss playlist, usually Meghan Thee Stallion.
M: I don’t think I struggle with this to be honest! I’m very much a “put-in-the-work, you’ll-get-the-results” type mindset.
What is your favourite thing about each other?
M: I know it sounds like a cop out, but Pam is genuinely one of the nicest people you will ever meet. Like an actually incredible, kind-hearted human, which is more rare than you think, and she always sees the best in people. But I think my favourite trait of Pam’s is her sense of humour - it’s sometimes dark, sarcastic, and overly dramatic which is a stark contrast to how she actually is. It never fails to make me laugh even in dire situations, or over the most minor inconvenience.
P: I don’t know if I can narrow it down! Meghan is one of the kindest, most loyal, adventure seeking people I know. She is such an amazing friend and has been there for me through some very difficult times. She is the type of friend who moved me into her house for a few months after a bad break-up so that I could take my time to get back on my feet. We have traveled to so many countries together and is always down to try new things. She is an amazing listener and never makes me feel like my ideas are crazy.
What is your least favourite thing about each other?
P: Meghan will not drink tap water and it drives me crazy. I finally caught on to this after she would always refuse drinks from me. I even got a Brita for her and she still refuses. Meghan’s family boils their water throughout the day and then fills a tank to drink from (I learned this when I moved in with them for a few months). I thought this was so strange but it was just normal for her growing up.
M: PAM WON’T STOP TRYING TO FORCE FEED ME TAP WATER!!!
If I looked at your search history, what would be the last three things I would see?
P: Oh man, okay one would definitely be me looking up a symptom I have and trying to diagnose myself with some illness. Second would be me looking up the menu to the last restaurant I went to because I like to know what I am eating in advance because of *anxiety*. Third would likely be me looking up the nearest parking lot for wherever I was going. I have severe parking anxiety because I don't like driving in the city.
M: We are the exact same person in this aspect - big fan of reading menus and convincing myself I'm probably dying, thank you WebMD.
What would you want to be assigned in each others’ wills?
M: Pam’s collection of Free People ottoman sweaters, which probably totals over $1K at this point, everything in her coffee station set-up, and all her pasta-making tools, which I realistically would never touch as I do NOT cook (but will gift to my future husband to use to feed me).
P: I definitely would want all of Meghan’s Free People summer dresses, her shimmer eyeshadow, and her minimalist gold jewelry collection. I would also appreciate being adopted into Meghan’s family, they are so amazing.
If we were in another country and one of us went missing, after looking all night and finally giving up and returning to the hotel, would you still do your skincare routine?
P: Absolutely, without hesitation. I would be devastated with Meg gone but I would be so stressed with her missing so I cannot skip any form of self care.
M: (See above for how much I love her for her humour) - Pam’s soul, on this earth or off, would want me to have perfect baby-soft skin like hers so of course I can’t let her down!